April 11th, 2014
#11 (permalink) 03 02 2013, 08 47 AM dajo Senior Member Join Date Dec 2012 Location United States Posts 200 Rep Power 23
Siberian man, you really know much more than I do! I already smoked almost all of 5 cartons I average almost 4 packs a day. Few packs left from the last one but I threw away the wrapping so cannot check where they were made. I always thought european ones come from the same factory…
The filter in these are much softer and feels like a single cigarette is not filled with tobacco so firmly / solid as the US ones… And as I said they burn much faster. #12 (permalink) 03 02 2013, 10 05 AM Russian Smoker Junior Member Join Date Jun 2012 Location Russian Federation Posts 21 Rep Power 0
I think at any place in the world local brands, especially unfiltered, are better than international that manufactured in these countries, except the US. Most of famous international cigarette brands were originally introduced in the USA (Marlboro, Camel, Parliament etc.), so, American Marlboros and Camels are much better than European despite FSC.
You can look for European non filters Roth Handle, Reval (Germany), Woodbine, Park Drive, Senior Service (the UK), Gitanes and Gauloises (France). In my opinion, these cigs are much tastier and pleasanter than European made international brands. #13 (permalink) 03 02 2013, 10 47 AM Siberian Man Junior Member Join Date Feb 2013 Location Russian Federation Posts 13 Rep Power 0
Originally Posted by dajo you really know much more than I do! Used to smoke these for some years.
Originally Posted by dajo Few packs left from the last one but I threw away the wrapping Check the barcode from your last pack, just first two three digits.
Originally Posted by dajo The filter in these are much softer and feels like a single cigarette is not filled with tobacco so firmly / solid as the US ones… And as I said they burn much faster. That’s it. These infernal transnational companies strive to earn extra cash, but ruin quality product. Eastern European factories don’t use FSC paper, but instead of it fill cigs with pieces of some inflammable (probably saltpeter), which cause little flashes from time to time, thus speeding the burning. W/European also do this trick with some brands for instance, Swiss made More 120 is made with using this “technology”. Nothing personal, just business… #14 (permalink) 03 02 2013, 02 38 PM Craven A Players Senior Member Join Date Jan 2013 Location SF Bay, USA Posts 193 Rep Power 22 Country Codes
Originally Posted by Siberian Man I use the site which shows origin immediately, but it’s in Russian. So, try decode manually first three digits is the country code. Here are the links
1. url EAN 13 country codes Barcode software OCX ActiveX ActiveBarcode /url
2. url EAN 13 SYMBOLOGY /url My Gitanes are made in France. Thanks S Man. #15 (permalink) 03 02 2013, 02 50 PM Craven A Players Senior Member Join Date Jan 2013 Location SF Bay, USA Posts 193 Rep Power 22 Euro Cigs
Originally Posted by Russian Smoker I think at any place in the world local brands, especially unfiltered, are better than international that manufactured in these countries, except the US. Most of famous international cigarette brands were originally introduced in the USA (Marlboro, Camel, Parliament etc.), so, American Marlboros and Camels are much better than European despite FSC.
You can look for European non filters Roth Handle, Reval (Germany), Woodbine, Park Drive, Senior Service (the UK), Gitanes and Gauloises (France). In my opinion, these cigs are much tastier and pleasanter than European made international brands. The only brands you mentioned available here are Gauloises & Gitanes. The non filter versions of these, IMHO, are like gargling with razor blades! Thanks R S.
Always good to know more about the cigs we can still obtain in the U.S. #16 (permalink) 03 03 2013, 02 02 AM dajo Senior Member Join Date Dec 2012 Location United States Posts 200 Rep Power 23
Originally Posted by Siberian Man I use the site which shows origin immediately, but it’s in Russian. So, try decode manually first three digits is the country code. Here are the links
1. url EAN 13 country codes Barcode software OCX ActiveX ActiveBarcode /url
2. url EAN 13 SYMBOLOGY /url Thanks, I checked they were made in Spain. #17 (permalink) 03 03 2013, 02 12 AM dajo Senior Member Join Date Dec 2012 Location United States Posts 200 Rep Power 23
Originally Posted by Russian Smoker I think at any place in the world local brands, especially unfiltered, are better than international that manufactured in these countries, except the US. Most of famous international cigarette brands were originally introduced in the USA (Marlboro, Camel, Parliament etc.), so, American Marlboros and Camels are much better than European despite FSC.
You can look for European non filters Roth Handle, Reval (Germany), Woodbine, Park Drive, Senior Service (the UK), Gitanes and Gauloises (France). In my opinion, these cigs are much tastier and pleasanter than European made international brands. Yes, non filter cigarettes are the best. I like them a lot! I usually smoke at least a pack of Camel NF’s or Lucky strikes. I would like to smoke more than one pack but they tend to hurt my lungs and irritate my throat if I go over one pack. Great cigarettes anyway! Great for evening smokes, after over 3 packs of reds during the day I got heavy feeling on my lungs and tight chest, non filters go down strongly and they give really nice nic rush. 100% relaxation #18 (permalink) 03 03 2013, 05 00 AM Siberian Man Junior Member Join Date Feb 2013 Location Russian Federation Posts 13 Rep Power 0
Originally Posted by Craven A Players My Gitanes are made in France. Thanks S Man. Originally Posted by dajo Thanks, I checked they were made in Spain. You are welcome. Made in France/Spain means they must be good quality. #19 (permalink) 03 03 2013, 05 29 AM dajo Senior Member Join Date Dec 2012 Location United States Posts 200 Rep Power 23
Originally Posted by Siberian Man You are welcome. Made in France/Spain means they must be good quality. Yes they were different but OK, but I prefer US Marlboros #20 (permalink) 03 12 2013, 08 05 AM Benjamin Peter Junior Member Join Date Mar 2013 Posts 2 Rep Power 0 Cigs from the EU
I have been buying my cigarettes from They are based in Spain, not one of their Tax Free islands and have never really noticed a difference in the taste. I have ordered Marlboro Red for a friend of mine and they were really pleased with the cigs. If you are in the UK they may be worth trying. Hell of a lot cheaper than the shops here!
Eu slowly making cigarettes illegal
Smokers are addicted to the branding of their cigarettes
Cigarettes and smoking are possibly the last form of civil disobedience left, and the European Parliament keeps chipping away at it. Recently they voted to ban flavoured cigarettes, including menthol, from 2022, and to have warnings cover 65% o the pack. In addition, they have banned smaller, 10 cigarette packs.
However, in an unusual bout of common sense, they have decided not to regulate e cigarettes as medicines, throwing the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency’s (MHRA) plans into disarray. The MHRA wanted e cigarettes to be regulated on the same bases as the various (and broadly ineffective) gums, patches and mouth sprays that purport to help smokers quit. However, the expensive and laborious process of licensing would likely lead to e cigarettes leaving the market.
Why all the fuss about e cigarette regulation? I think the answer is partly because EU busybodies hate anything that’s not regulated. A very believable conspiracy theory puts pharmaceutical lobbying behind the attempts at regulation, since all the nicotine patches and other completely useless products are losing out to e cigarettes. However, for now, e cigarettes are safe.
So what’s the reasoning behind all this nannying? Well, apparently, flavoured cigarettes are more enticing to women and teenagers. The ban on smaller packs is there in hopes that shelling out for a 20 cigarette pack will be a step too far for kids and social smokers. It will also affect people who are trying to cut down. Bigger warnings on the cover are unlikely to be of much use either I think no one buys a packet and thinks “Wow, I didn’t know this is bad for you, I shouldn’t smoke it!”
A black market in cigarettes is also beginning to flourish in the EU, partly because of all the sin taxes, with around 1 in 10 cigarettes smoked coming from across the Eastern border, tax free. Far be it for me to condemn the black market anything people do to deprive the state is a good thing.
In the longterm, cigarettes are probably going out, whether that’s due to better education, increased prices, or simply because of a change in culture, where smoking is no longer a socially acceptable thing to do. But prohibition is not the way to go about it. Now, no one, except for a few crackpots, doubt that smoking is harmful and dangerous. However, a free society means people free to make their own choices, even when those choices are bad ones.
